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Posts: 574 (06/24/05 09:11:07) |
I've been a B/Aer since my first episode. I can't remember whether I saw Halloween or Surprise first but I saw them both the same day (FX Thanksgiving marathon), loved B/A, and haven't looked back since. Although I sure wasn't this obsessive that first day.
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Weasy of Halfevilkids |
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Posts: 307 (06/24/05 09:36:43) |
My first episode was actually Welcome to the Hellmouth... but I actually wasn't going to watch it, my older sister made me and I complained bitterly... until it started.
I bet she regrets it now. I didn't really undertsand the concept of 'ships until I reached the online fandom... so I irrationally hated all of Buffy's boyfriends but didn't really know why. Possibly my oh god I ship moment was actually reading 'Windows' by Serena. "Shakespeare - the only muggle worth a damn." Draco in Snake Charming by Echo "How's Forever, does Forever work for you?" Buffy to Angel in Forever |
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Posts: 425 (06/24/05 15:37:31) |
I'm trying to think now, I BELIEVE I actually DID watch WttH when iti premiered, but I didn't realize it...like I didn't know what I watching until I went back and watched it later on. LOL.
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baf1319 |
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Posts: 574 (06/27/05 08:49:18) |
I watched Wtth and tH last night.
My reactions: Angel is hot. There is mucho sexual tension between Buffy and Angel -- did you see the eye connection in the masoleum? Buffy's nail polish is ugly. For someone who is clearly trained for his job, Giles (wait, he's stil Mr. Giles at this point) seems to be rather uninformed on the nature of the beasts his slayer is fighting. I mean, she had to explain to him how a vampire makes a new vampire. Xander is adorable, and faithful, the kind of person I'd want to be my friend. Was this the first supernatural occurance in the town? I'm not sure what the backstory there is. Cordelia is mean, but amusing. There were a lot of great one liners, most said by Cordelia. It was scary! The ending of the first episode was intense. The episodes left me wanting to know more about Buffy's life before Sunnydale. I'll be back later. -Zoe |
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Posts: 849 (06/27/05 12:00:39) |
Quote: me too Quote: you can say that again ... Quote: Yes. You can feel it, you can cut it. (Spike - who the fu.. is Spike? - sorry, it doesn't belong here, but it slipped out). Quote: I DISAGREE! He is an idiot. And he behaves like one. But I still love him. Cordy is a bitch, but a great one. She is simply perfect. Queen C rules. Giles is extremely stuff, and British. He is also a klutz, the way he jumps on Buffy. But it's very Giles-ish Joyce is starting her career as a totally oblivious mother, who tries to intall a guilt-complex in her daughter. Nice touch, Joyce, really nice. oh ... and Darla is a stupid cow. The little girl number is boring and not believable. and did anyone else think that the master is creepy? Jill |
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baf1319 |
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Posts: 574 (06/27/05 16:09:34) |
Quote: He's willing to go into danger, danger he doesn't know the degree of, if he thinks he might possibly help Jesse. He's loyal. He's stupid yes, but loyal. He will go blindly after anyone that hurts his friends. I'm not denying that he's an idiot, I'm just saying that common sense doesn't always = good friend. Sometimes lack of it = the kind of loyalty that I'd want in a friend. And I don't mean I want stupid, senseless friends. Not at all. I just admire the purety of his heart and i think that purity comes from his navet. Quote: I did. -Zoe |
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BAalwayz |
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Posts: 425 (06/27/05 19:23:07) |
First off, Giles ISN'T clueless about the nature of the beast. He didn't ask her because HE didn't know, he asked her because he wasn't sure if SHE knew.
Jill I agree with your erm..assessment of Joyce, Giles, I don't agree with Darla, I'm not sure what WOULD be "believable" about a 400 yr old vampire. *shrugs* so I don't really get what you're mean. Buffy's clothes are ugly. At the time they weren't so bad, but MY GAWD are her pants short. Angel is bloody hot. That smirk? *swoon* he isn't that bad of an actor then. And oddly enough I agree with BOTH of you on the Xander front.Xander is a big old goof, he's your average hormonal teenage boy, who is out to impress the very hot new girl. He has a big heart though. He's like..old yeller *G* Cordy is the best bitch character evah!1!1! "Excuse me, I have to call everyone I've EVER met, RIGHT NOW"  Another part I love. When Cordy is talking to Harmony in the comp lab about how Buffy is a psycho looney "she came at me with a stick screaming 'I'm gonna kill you! I'm gonna kill you!', I swear to god!" and that HIL FREAKING LARIOUS Surfer dudes, head pops out and he goes "Who?". It's so hilarious now, didn't use to be. But when I was watching it with Jojo a few weeks back, we both started cracking up. The lingo is overboard. Especially the "Nay" and the "Chatter in the caf" (girl's locker room speak), the slayspeak simmers down after a while and it's WAY better. Sorry, my thoughts are scattered, I didn't watch WttH/TH this past weekend, because I had just watched it. Anywho, I love the beginning, the opening sequence, you have the "scared little blonde girl" all nervous, and then all of a sudden, SHE'S the one to be feared. It's sort of a pre-cursor to Buffy. It represents Buffy, Buffy is the little blonde valley girl who turns out to be really fucking scary to the Underworld. Another beef of mine. That I just can't get over. Is at the end of WttH/beginning of TH. That her necklace suddenly appears, then disappears. Jojo and I were trying to make sense of it. So we said...ok it was in her jacket pocket. When Luke attacks her, it sort of...the box mysteriously opens and the cross falls out on her chest right before Luke is going to eat her face. Subsequently he is burned and distracted just in the nick of time, so that Buffy can escape. Then she runs a little further...and where the hell did the cross go? hum? So of course we reasoned that the necklace fell back into the box, and back into her pocket. It just makes me wonder how the writers could have missed that. I know this is my gazillionith time watching, but I noticed that the FIRST time I saw that episode. You'd think that they'd try to retcon or something and have her wearing the necklace in TH after she escapes. Phew. The Master is one of my favourite big bads, just because he's fucking cool and creepy. He was a great first villain and foe to Buffy. Overall I give this episode(or two parter) an..er..4/5. I thought is was awesome. I mean hey, it kept me watching for the next 7 seasons  I think I'm going to watch it again, in case I missed anything. _________________
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Posts: 574 (06/27/05 19:46:55) |
In the locker room, when the girl makes a comment about how wierd the name Buffy is then someone says hi to her and we find out her name is something like Aphrodisia -- I was smiling, it was funny. The sad thing is, there really are teenagers who are that dumb blonde-y.
Quote: That has always bothered me as well. Quote: Okay, maybe it's just because I'm from a generation which tests the boundaries of low-rise pants, but her skirts are way to high. I'm not a fan of the skirt above the bellybutton so it's crazy short and a mini shirt that doesn't actually show any skin because the skirt is so high look. It makes her torso look even shorter than it is. |
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Posts: 425 (06/27/05 20:00:12) |
Well I'm an 80's girl so back in the day that was the rage
 But I'm not sure the skirts are as high as we think they are given how Sarah has a really short body, because Willow nor Xander wear theirs particularly high... _________________
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Weasy of Halfevilkids |
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Posts: 307 (06/28/05 00:27:54) |
I think that it would be wrong if she didn't wear what was the fashion at the time - because especially then, she's extremely fashion conscious.
The only problem being that fashion dates *really* easily, I mean, I originally only saw these episodes a year after they were made, but they looked wrong then because English and American fashions don't often collide. I suppose they're irritating because they just don't really suit her. But when she had greater control of her wardrobe she looks a whole lot better. the actual episode: Quote: Hey! What is with the tweed?? I mean, maybe it's passable, but the little waistcoat?? It's the American vision of stiff-upper-lip British, not actual stiff-upper-lip British, Joss has had a lot of contact with the British and I know Giles' stereotype image is part of the bending sterotypes that goes on throughout Buffy, I just think the point gets lost a bit. On another sterotype front - I ADORE the first scene! Darla and that guy. I was watching this episode last summer with a ten year old and a fourteen year old who'd never seen it before, and they were sitting there absolutely sure the guy was gunna get the girl, and it's the other way round. I think it says a lot about Buffy that it's always going to be the people you least expect to be anything or do anything that are the most important. I love Jessie. Principal Futie rocks. I love the way he says ENG-land and gets all quietly flustered. Angel was so cute and mysterious then... and skinny, I don't remember him looking that tiny and young. Favourite line is still: Quote: "Shakespeare - the only muggle worth a damn." Draco in Snake Charming by Echo "How's Forever, does Forever work for you?" Buffy to Angel in Forever |
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Posts: 574 (06/28/05 06:50:29) |
Quote: And what is he doing wearing tweed in SoCal? It looks a bit funny next to tank tops and short skirts. |
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Weasy of Halfevilkids |
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Posts: 307 (06/28/05 07:29:51) |
Quote: He must be *dying* of heat exhaustion. "Shakespeare - the only muggle worth a damn." Draco in Snake Charming by Echo "How's Forever, does Forever work for you?" Buffy to Angel in Forever |
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BAalwayz |
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Posts: 425 (06/28/05 09:31:23) |
But he's too English to say anything....so instead he makes that cluck cluck noise with his tongue...
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Posts: 1438 (06/28/05 21:30:19) |
arrgh
 I haven't have time to re-watch the eps. Probably won't get a chance until later this week. Until when do I have to watch and share?  Proud member of the 'Hands and Leather Pants Fetish' Club  |
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Weasy of Halfevilkids |
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Posts: 307 (06/28/05 23:45:02) |
You have until Friday.
Well... actually the conversation could passibly run on until monday when the next conversation starts... |
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BAalwayz |
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Posts: 425 (06/29/05 16:14:44) |
Yup, Ruthie, Fri-Sun give you a chance to watch whatever 2 eps we're on. And Mon-Thurs discussions.
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Posts: 1438 (06/29/05 19:29:10) |
Ok, I typed as I watched.
Wow! Is soo dark. Was it like that when it first aired on tv? Best intro. Ever! Are you sure this is a good idea? hey! Buffy dreamt about Angel before she met him! (well she dreamt about his cross Joyce, buy a clue. ..and honey try not to get kicked out?? Whatever heh, ok, me like Xander. Sorry, cant help it. LOL, poor Jesse a font of nothing and so soon forgotten. Awww love Principal Flutiepoor Buffy, I think if I hadnt already loved her I would have fallen in love with her when she looked so hopeful and then just like that her hopes were dashed. Nope, Xander, you cant have her hee hee Heee, Buffys look at Cordelias softer side of Sears spiel. (Thats right Buffy, dont look that way for friendship.) and why was she so surprised at Cordelias cruelty? Were Sunnydales bitcas nastier than Emerys bitcas? Gah, Giles was so creepy in that whole introduction scene. Lol Aphrodesia? Blue? Oooook, and I have to agree the whole valley speak thing was overdone. Poor Willow, it isnt legal to hang with Cordelia and talk to Willow at the same time. LOL, Willows love affair with the library. And her crush on Giles hee Having last months hair is just about the scariest thing in a new High School Ohh the pout. Ive decided Ive got a crush on Buffys pout. Slayers slay Watchers.Watch Hee I love this shot where theyre above ground and the camera just keeps going down until we see the Masters lair. I wonder why they stopped doing cool stuff like that. Luke was so cheesy he was cool. Hmm Slut, Watchtower pusher. Ill take the slut please The pants are short but she makes them look good.ohhh mysterious, handsome man sighting hmmmm And he falls for her :P Ooh he lies, he did bit Ahhh my tv screen is about to melt Why was Buffy waving at that guy? The Dastardly Xander and the kidnapped Barbie tale of woe. LOL Giles the skank! And what is Bovril anyway? Dark, gorgeous in an annoying sort of way lol, yeah Buffy I can tell you really didnt like him Why was Jesse asking Cordelia for a dance? Isnt it like a rule or something that geeks dont even look at cheerleaders much less ask them to dance? Darlas got to be the most beautiful woman in either show. Lol, the master just rose from a pool of blood but he is totally dry! Willow wasnt as red early on . Buffy vs Darla part 1, go Buffy kick her skanky ass Nice shot of Luke from the ground LOL, the case of the disappearing crucifix Mmm interesting, the master seems to believe that slayers feel a compulsion to save humans. Buffys feet would be leaving the ground soon. Gah Xanders eyebrows are in serious need of a trim. Hot object of lust has a name..Angel, Sorry, I sort of shor-circuited there. Love how Angel was rammed down my throat, actually there never was enough Angel LOL they always left me wanting more. Another great shot where it pans from Buffy and Xander in the sewers to the card catalogue in the library. I wish they hadnt stopped doing that. Harmony , Buffy and Willow look young. (Cordelia does look like she should be at best a senior) Deliver. Yay Willow strikes a blow for the nice people of the world! Poor Xander, thats pretty traumatic having your best friend try to eat you.(not in that way pervs!) The minion is a Star Trek groupie LOL Awww all along all Jesse had to do to get Cordelia was tell her to shut up. Hmmm so when you look at a vampire youre not looking at the human. Youre looking at the demon that killed him. Cant understand why some fans insist that the demon and the soul are the same. Rats Buffy! Couldnt you have gotten there just a little bit later? We wouldnt have had to suffer through Ats 3. Awww I feel the Masters pain Ok, I actually felt like crying during the last scene 'nuff said. Proud member of the 'Hands and Leather Pants Fetish' Club |
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Posts: 574 (07/01/05 08:11:24) |
Quote: She was lonely at the Bronze because she didn't know anyone and she thought he was waving to her so she got all excited. Poor Buffy. I've never been the new kid but it must be hard. Quote: I couldn't figure out wat was going on in that scene. It was a pool of blood he rose from? Also, I'm not sure I liked him literally being trapped. The way the air got all wavy when he put his hand on it was so not convincing. Also, he is trapped in a church, right? So where are the crosses and other holy things found in churches that would normally hurt vampires. What were those chips in Buffy's trunk of vampire slaying goodies? Quote: That was why his character works so well, why I never get sick of him (damn it is so hard to avoid mentions of the future). Is it just me or was the fighting not very impresive. I though Buffy was too easily dominated in the fights. Maybe she just hasn't been training in so long that she is kinda rusty? Quote: How old was SMG when this was filmed because she looks so young. It is actually believable that she is in high school which is so rare on t.v. nowadays. -Zoe |
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Posts: 425 (07/01/05 13:02:34) |
There are crosses and churchy stuff in there.
You have to watch the later episodes, when the Master goes right up and touches the ginormous cross, because he's so old, he doesn't fear God or the Church, crosses etc anymore. It could also be because he's been trapped down there for thousands of years. She was 18 when they started filming. Not too long after S1 aired, she was 19. _________________
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Weasy of Halfevilkids |
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Posts: 307 (07/02/05 01:40:56) |
Those little chips are communal wafers I think - y'know the bread in Catholic mass.
"Shakespeare - the only muggle worth a damn." Draco in Snake Charming by Echo "How's Forever, does Forever work for you?" Buffy to Angel in Forever |
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